tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post2683529947308417139..comments2023-12-16T05:27:05.041-06:00Comments on mexpatriate — in the key of steve: fantasy islandSteve Cottonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00468378507171761868noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-80341759657508559912011-08-27T21:08:12.210-05:002011-08-27T21:08:12.210-05:00I do not know if it is true throughout Christendom...I do not know if it is true throughout Christendom, but a church with two towers is usually dedicated to a female saint; one to a mail saint. The reason? No idea. I have a guess, though.Steve Cottonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-51087947689540843532011-08-27T17:55:21.999-05:002011-08-27T17:55:21.999-05:00One if by land and two if be sea? Where do you do...One if by land and two if be sea? Where do you do your research?<br /><br />"Two" is an important Christian symbol. There is the "dual" nature ofChrist as God and man. If an Orthodox Church has two domes, that iswhat they stand for. And if a Roman Catholic church has two domes,that is what they stand for. The symbolism is universal. No suchuniversal symbolism for towers exists. If it did, the tradition wouldbe more widespread.If the twin towers does have a symbolism, it must be localized, varyby region, and be fairly recent in origin.The same comparison can be made to all the major symbols ofChristianity. Those which came about in the earliest church becameuniversal. So we cannot date any tower symbolism from that time. Theevidence would be there.Major traditions which came about later, about the time of the GreatSchism, became more localized divided between East and West, but theystill divided the world between them. A strong twin tower symbolismevolving then would have dominated one or the other. It didn't. Sowe cannot date any major tower symbolism from that time. The evidencewould be there.Even within the western tradition, with the exception of thoseisolated cases where towers were built, we are back to the Saxons. Other than in Saxon England, towers were of little importance in therest of the Christian world. If they had a significent meaning, theiruse would have been more widespread. So there was no major towersymbolism involved. The evidence would be there.So the answer has to stand as is. Church towers were utilitarian inorigin, whether as watch towers in Saxon England, architecturalinnovations as at Aachan, which also make a political statement, or assimple artistic preference. There is no ancient symbolism attached toChurch towers regardless of their number.Any symbolisms you may find regarding the subject would be ratherrecent in origin and an example of "symbol emerging from utility"rather than symbolism actually driving the original design.Ric Hoffmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-42598766059035007252011-08-27T00:15:48.810-05:002011-08-27T00:15:48.810-05:00They do, indeed. That is where i got the idea I m...They do, indeed. That is where i got the idea I might want to live there one day.Steve Cottonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-42599551921825096452011-08-27T00:13:24.323-05:002011-08-27T00:13:24.323-05:00The next time I go, I will take you with me.The next time I go, I will take you with me.Steve Cottonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-73276076808979246422011-08-27T00:12:33.254-05:002011-08-27T00:12:33.254-05:00Jennifer says the soup is good in the morning.Jennifer says the soup is good in the morning.Steve Cottonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-61174042277123677342011-08-27T00:11:57.715-05:002011-08-27T00:11:57.715-05:00If I was around longer on this trip, I would go ba...If I was around longer on this trip, I would go back -- just to see the rest of the island.Steve Cottonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-27398150859370467202011-08-26T21:41:18.454-05:002011-08-26T21:41:18.454-05:00tzintzuntzan & tzurumutaro , the double "...tzintzuntzan & tzurumutaro , the double "T's" bunch of wild and crazy guys....tanchonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-86473173501002245392011-08-26T16:27:34.442-05:002011-08-26T16:27:34.442-05:00Sometimes, Felipe, you can be so flip.
Saludos, ...Sometimes, Felipe, you can be so flip. <br /><br />Saludos, Don CuevasDon Cuevashttp://profiles.google.com/warshauer.michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-11883329138131598822011-08-26T13:53:33.496-05:002011-08-26T13:53:33.496-05:00Steve...it looks like there are houses on the isla...Steve...it looks like there are houses on the island...are there folks who live there full-time?Charlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-75210172605399587352011-08-26T12:07:41.764-05:002011-08-26T12:07:41.764-05:00What graveyard are you talking about? Janitzio?What graveyard are you talking about? Janitzio?Felipe Zapatahttp://unseenmoon.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-60568141295238307392011-08-26T11:40:10.753-05:002011-08-26T11:40:10.753-05:00Yes it can very considerably, the last few times t...Yes it can very considerably, the last few times that we have gone to my observation it has been more garish and commercial with teenage kids running around, way too much loud music on the outskirts of the cemeteries and just a general carnival type atmosphere. In the smaller cemeteries it is always more solemn, respectful and a better experience, at least in my opinion. tanchonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-9753179207694332852011-08-26T10:38:17.056-05:002011-08-26T10:38:17.056-05:00Tancho, the Day of the Dead experience can vary wi...Tancho, the Day of the Dead experience can vary widely, depending on a number of factors. Just one visit is not sufficient. And mud is a rarity because the rainy season usually has departed by early November. Not always, of course, but usually. All of which is to say that a Night of the Dead trip to a cemetery can really vary, like a woman's face in the morning.Felipe Zapatahttp://unseenmoon.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-58295473525813528052011-08-26T10:33:37.077-05:002011-08-26T10:33:37.077-05:00Thank you for your great description and photos. I...Thank you for your great description and photos. I will include that in my visitors tourist package, since one trip 15 years ago was sufficient to last me several lifetimes.<br />It is included in my been there done that item list, couple of lines above trouncing in the wet mud in the graveyards during the DoD.tanchonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-47419336796581018582011-08-26T09:43:27.049-05:002011-08-26T09:43:27.049-05:00Always good to see women flipping their aprons up....Always good to see women flipping their aprons up.Felipe Zapatahttp://unseenmoon.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-66384471943776039252011-08-26T09:13:01.307-05:002011-08-26T09:13:01.307-05:00My one visit to Janitzio happened to be on the Fea...My one visit to Janitzio happened to be on the Feast of Corpus Christi. As I was walking along all of a sudden a tuba band came around the corner and the women were dancing and flipping the tips of their aprons up. The fishermen were relatively somber. There were no tourists that day - only my friend and I. I felt touched to see a group of people enjoying their parade just for themselves. A great memory<br /><br />I agree with Felipe, it is not a place to go to eat.Babsofsanmiguelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-37325522822863632392011-08-26T06:36:38.014-05:002011-08-26T06:36:38.014-05:00You're a better man than I am. During my first...You're a better man than I am. During my first and last trip to Janitzio, I climbed a ways up the incline, got discouraged (hot afternoon) and returned to the dock for a bite to eat at a greasy spoon. Gruesome meal. The island struck me as totally touristy. I never made it to the top, to the statue, to the church. Maybe I should give it one more try. Maybe.<br /><br />Very nice photos.Felipe Zapatahttp://unseenmoon.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com