tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post8845039070509322265..comments2023-12-16T05:27:05.041-06:00Comments on mexpatriate — in the key of steve: death on the flatsSteve Cottonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00468378507171761868noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-24803833229416311952010-12-06T22:53:57.245-06:002010-12-06T22:53:57.245-06:00And people should respect that. (sigh)And people should respect that. (sigh)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-21025821719973092872010-12-06T14:44:23.760-06:002010-12-06T14:44:23.760-06:00No, there was no wit intended. Wherever you are on...No, there was no wit intended. Wherever you are on the planet, you're standing on someone's bones or someone's temple -- just like all the water that's ever passed your lips is recycled. It may have even been elephant urine at one time.jennifer rosehttp://www.staringatstrangers.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-73341169228234172892010-12-06T14:39:30.540-06:002010-12-06T14:39:30.540-06:00Yes, this makes me almost as sick to my stomach as...Yes, this makes me almost as sick to my stomach as hearing of the damage done to ancient artifacts and sites from that shamefully stupid "Shock & Awe" spectacle at the beginning of the Iraq War on Baghdad.Michttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06378841946374784707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-5366300793413667442010-12-06T13:02:49.978-06:002010-12-06T13:02:49.978-06:00Barb -- Sad, Indeed.
KK -- I take your point. No...Barb -- Sad, Indeed.<br /><br />KK -- I take your point. Not everything old can be retained. Otherwise, we would be swimming in a sea of junk. But this story goes beyond that. It was wanton destruction. And there is no excuse for it.Steve Cottonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00468378507171761868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-40276738967519226752010-12-06T06:52:20.134-06:002010-12-06T06:52:20.134-06:00Everywhere one turns in the Yucatan there are moun...Everywhere one turns in the Yucatan there are mounds- ruins. There is no way any government would or should spend what it would take to restore them. As a society we place tremendous importance on things that are old...antique furniture, old houses in the NE that are drafty and termite riddled, piles of rubble in the Yucatan...at what point should Mexico decide they have spent enough money preserving ruins so that visitors can have solitary experiences at them or, instead, opt for feeding/clothing/housing the people who are living marginally? <br /><br />I do not advocate wantonly destroying what is old, but feel that sometimes too much value is placed on objects that are old to the neglect of other more important things...in this case, in Mexico, clean water, education with well trained teachers, professional salaries for law enforcement personnel...the list goes on. KKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-70232438668316474632010-12-06T00:32:31.826-06:002010-12-06T00:32:31.826-06:00How very, very sad.How very, very sad.Barbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00736132484129220698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-41844898520085832122010-12-05T23:06:20.930-06:002010-12-05T23:06:20.930-06:00Kathe -- It sounds like a good trip to make. Watc...Kathe -- It sounds like a good trip to make. Watch out for the heavy machinery.<br /><br />Calypso -- At best, stupidity. If not mendacity.<br /><br />Norm -- I fear you may be correct. I often chuckle about how the law is ignored in Mexico. I should not be surprised at the results.<br /><br />Mikey -- I would not be shocked in the least if that turns out to be the case. And it will not matter what he knew and when he knew it. Where is Sam Ervin when we need him?<br /><br />Islagringo -- And it was so close to where we were.<br /><br />Jennifer -- I hope that famously witty tongue of yours is embedded deep in your cheek. As you know, I detest government-imposed limitations on private property owners. But the ownership of archaelogical sites is well-known. And mounds on the Yucatan are hard to miss for what they are. I have little sympathy in this case.<br /><br />1st Mate -- I am waiting for the news that something other than a ranch is planned for the site. Personally, I would love to have my own private dig.<br /><br />Nita -- Mexico's pesos are already set for priorities other than preserving the numerous sites not yet preserved. From what I hear, quite a few sites are destroyed every year. And usually by people who cannot be held for their actions. But it is a great example of the tragedy of the commons. In that sense, Jennifer is correct.Steve Cottonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00468378507171761868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-88120755792905056832010-12-05T13:51:26.478-06:002010-12-05T13:51:26.478-06:00This couldn't get much worse. I know there are...This couldn't get much worse. I know there are many ruins not yet found or marked. Someone needs to hurry up with some ways to save. Since many of the sites already found were restored with grants given to organizations in the U.S., like the Smithsonian, Natural Museum of History in NY and even university professors, I wonder if lack of money by Mexican authorities has played any part.Hope this doesn't happen again.<br /> NitaNitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08260650738906546038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-80312708644259244212010-12-05T09:38:30.470-06:002010-12-05T09:38:30.470-06:00The rancher had to have known the ruins existed, i...The rancher had to have known the ruins existed, if a condition of his purchase was their protection. Did some paperwork get lost? Did he just forget what he bought? Anyway, I've never seen cows have any problem climbing hills. I guess he didn't want them to get too much exercise.1st Matehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05276608080436409432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-3169876467581284572010-12-05T09:32:43.984-06:002010-12-05T09:32:43.984-06:00The man paid good money for the land with the expe...The man paid good money for the land with the expectation that it could be put to its intended use. Put yourselves in his shoes -- how would you like to suddenly discover that what was sold to you as arable land is now something else? Give him a break.jennifer rosehttp://www.staringatstrangers.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-67882509252536083062010-12-05T09:18:12.292-06:002010-12-05T09:18:12.292-06:00What a sad way to start the day...reading about th...What a sad way to start the day...reading about this. Of course, nothing has been mentioned in our local papers. At least not that I have seen. I agree with you about what the ultimate conclusion will be....nothing. This man should go to jail.Islagringohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18181198510287530636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-34323603473467243612010-12-05T07:59:08.315-06:002010-12-05T07:59:08.315-06:00One of the saddest posts I have ever read. No dou...One of the saddest posts I have ever read. No doubt in my mind that the rancher was an influential businessman who was well-connected. How unfortunate for the rest of the world.Merida Mikeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10523207460815870595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-45551451910175141382010-12-05T06:07:30.376-06:002010-12-05T06:07:30.376-06:00I have access to an old atlas of archaeological si...I have access to an old atlas of archaeological sites in Ohio, dots and marks to show what was found by the early interested folk. It was published in 1913. A great many of the listed mounds, enclosures and forts have gone under the bulldozer. My policy as to things I find, is to keep it to myself because if the landowner finds out there is a village site, mound or fort on their land, he/she may call in the bulldozers to keep the state from protecting the site. People in the country are weird about land rights-many could care less about history.normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04651902762232427335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-55292414862238521262010-12-05T05:26:15.766-06:002010-12-05T05:26:15.766-06:00Wars and stupidity will erase our history I think ...Wars and stupidity will erase our history I think - very sad indeed!Calypsohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705486544074674388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-70578026611428797072010-12-05T01:19:56.118-06:002010-12-05T01:19:56.118-06:00Steve, if you ever get as far south as my house, y...Steve, if you ever get as far south as my house, you will see various mounds and even a pyramid on the property I own. They are all unexcavated. This was part of the 'burbs of the larger and partially reconstructed site of Oxtankah just down the road from me. KatheAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-25340156619870894072010-12-05T00:45:15.505-06:002010-12-05T00:45:15.505-06:00Mom -- Much of the land under Mayan ruins is priva...Mom -- Much of the land under Mayan ruins is privately owned. When the property is sold, it is subject to protection of the ruins. Until recently, the great site at Chichen Itza was privately owned. The state did not buy the land until during the last five years.Steve Cottonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00468378507171761868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2289482511228853984.post-2400198802492010442010-12-05T00:42:07.157-06:002010-12-05T00:42:07.157-06:00That is terrible. My question is, if it was regis...That is terrible. My question is, if it was registered Maya ruins, why was it for sale?<br /><br />MomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com